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Should a half Jewish man be discouraged from marrying a Jewess?


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Is there any source in encouraging a man who identifies as Jewish but isn't so Halachically, to marry a Jewish woman and raise a Jewish family?



For instance, a patrilineal Jew although he isn't Jewish, if he is a cultural Jew and wishes to continue his Jewish family's legacy should he still be disuaded from marrying a non-religious Jewish woman? Is there a religious duty or source to have Jewish children?



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I ask because I am aware that a convert who is patrilineally Jewish has a slightly different status to a regular convert as he has the status of 'זרע ישראל' and is considered “מקרב אחיך" according the Aruch haShulchan in Choshen Mishpat 7:1.










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    Is there any source in encouraging a man who identifies as Jewish but isn't so Halachically, to marry a Jewish woman and raise a Jewish family?



    For instance, a patrilineal Jew although he isn't Jewish, if he is a cultural Jew and wishes to continue his Jewish family's legacy should he still be disuaded from marrying a non-religious Jewish woman? Is there a religious duty or source to have Jewish children?



    Note:
    I ask because I am aware that a convert who is patrilineally Jewish has a slightly different status to a regular convert as he has the status of 'זרע ישראל' and is considered “מקרב אחיך" according the Aruch haShulchan in Choshen Mishpat 7:1.










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      Is there any source in encouraging a man who identifies as Jewish but isn't so Halachically, to marry a Jewish woman and raise a Jewish family?



      For instance, a patrilineal Jew although he isn't Jewish, if he is a cultural Jew and wishes to continue his Jewish family's legacy should he still be disuaded from marrying a non-religious Jewish woman? Is there a religious duty or source to have Jewish children?



      Note:
      I ask because I am aware that a convert who is patrilineally Jewish has a slightly different status to a regular convert as he has the status of 'זרע ישראל' and is considered “מקרב אחיך" according the Aruch haShulchan in Choshen Mishpat 7:1.










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      Is there any source in encouraging a man who identifies as Jewish but isn't so Halachically, to marry a Jewish woman and raise a Jewish family?



      For instance, a patrilineal Jew although he isn't Jewish, if he is a cultural Jew and wishes to continue his Jewish family's legacy should he still be disuaded from marrying a non-religious Jewish woman? Is there a religious duty or source to have Jewish children?



      Note:
      I ask because I am aware that a convert who is patrilineally Jewish has a slightly different status to a regular convert as he has the status of 'זרע ישראל' and is considered “מקרב אחיך" according the Aruch haShulchan in Choshen Mishpat 7:1.







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          The man isn't Jewish in this case, so he has no obligation whatsoever in marrying a Jewish woman. It is forbidden for the Jewish woman to marry this man because he is not a Jew. If the man truly feels a connection with Judaism he should convert.






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            Regardless of how he considers himself, he is not Jewish. Subsequently, it is not just not encouraged, but forbidden for him to marry a Jewess.






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              Which prohibition is that for him?

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            • @DoubleAA kosby bas tzur for example (to avoid baal peor issues)

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              @Y e z nice find, and according to those mefarshim it looks like it wouldn't be forbidden as such. However, it's perhaps worth mentioning that I'm fairly confident that when G-d tells someone 'don't do x' and someone actively encourages someone to do x, they are effectively setting themselves against Hashem and is forbidden misvarah even if not a direct 'mitzvah'.

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            The man isn't Jewish in this case, so he has no obligation whatsoever in marrying a Jewish woman. It is forbidden for the Jewish woman to marry this man because he is not a Jew. If the man truly feels a connection with Judaism he should convert.






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              The man isn't Jewish in this case, so he has no obligation whatsoever in marrying a Jewish woman. It is forbidden for the Jewish woman to marry this man because he is not a Jew. If the man truly feels a connection with Judaism he should convert.






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                The man isn't Jewish in this case, so he has no obligation whatsoever in marrying a Jewish woman. It is forbidden for the Jewish woman to marry this man because he is not a Jew. If the man truly feels a connection with Judaism he should convert.






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                The man isn't Jewish in this case, so he has no obligation whatsoever in marrying a Jewish woman. It is forbidden for the Jewish woman to marry this man because he is not a Jew. If the man truly feels a connection with Judaism he should convert.







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                    Regardless of how he considers himself, he is not Jewish. Subsequently, it is not just not encouraged, but forbidden for him to marry a Jewess.






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                      Which prohibition is that for him?

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                      Mar 26 at 12:09











                    • @DoubleAA kosby bas tzur for example (to avoid baal peor issues)

                      – Orangesandlemons
                      Mar 26 at 13:07






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                      @Orangesandlemons judaism.stackexchange.com/q/43388

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                      @Y e z nice find, and according to those mefarshim it looks like it wouldn't be forbidden as such. However, it's perhaps worth mentioning that I'm fairly confident that when G-d tells someone 'don't do x' and someone actively encourages someone to do x, they are effectively setting themselves against Hashem and is forbidden misvarah even if not a direct 'mitzvah'.

                      – Orangesandlemons
                      Mar 26 at 14:24















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                    Regardless of how he considers himself, he is not Jewish. Subsequently, it is not just not encouraged, but forbidden for him to marry a Jewess.






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                      Which prohibition is that for him?

                      – Double AA
                      Mar 26 at 12:09











                    • @DoubleAA kosby bas tzur for example (to avoid baal peor issues)

                      – Orangesandlemons
                      Mar 26 at 13:07






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                      @Orangesandlemons judaism.stackexchange.com/q/43388

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                      @Y e z nice find, and according to those mefarshim it looks like it wouldn't be forbidden as such. However, it's perhaps worth mentioning that I'm fairly confident that when G-d tells someone 'don't do x' and someone actively encourages someone to do x, they are effectively setting themselves against Hashem and is forbidden misvarah even if not a direct 'mitzvah'.

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                    Regardless of how he considers himself, he is not Jewish. Subsequently, it is not just not encouraged, but forbidden for him to marry a Jewess.






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                      Which prohibition is that for him?

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                      Mar 26 at 12:09











                    • @DoubleAA kosby bas tzur for example (to avoid baal peor issues)

                      – Orangesandlemons
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                      @Orangesandlemons judaism.stackexchange.com/q/43388

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                      @Y e z nice find, and according to those mefarshim it looks like it wouldn't be forbidden as such. However, it's perhaps worth mentioning that I'm fairly confident that when G-d tells someone 'don't do x' and someone actively encourages someone to do x, they are effectively setting themselves against Hashem and is forbidden misvarah even if not a direct 'mitzvah'.

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                      Which prohibition is that for him?

                      – Double AA
                      Mar 26 at 12:09











                    • @DoubleAA kosby bas tzur for example (to avoid baal peor issues)

                      – Orangesandlemons
                      Mar 26 at 13:07






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                      @Orangesandlemons judaism.stackexchange.com/q/43388

                      – Y     e     z
                      Mar 26 at 13:55






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                      @Y e z nice find, and according to those mefarshim it looks like it wouldn't be forbidden as such. However, it's perhaps worth mentioning that I'm fairly confident that when G-d tells someone 'don't do x' and someone actively encourages someone to do x, they are effectively setting themselves against Hashem and is forbidden misvarah even if not a direct 'mitzvah'.

                      – Orangesandlemons
                      Mar 26 at 14:24







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                    Which prohibition is that for him?

                    – Double AA
                    Mar 26 at 12:09





                    Which prohibition is that for him?

                    – Double AA
                    Mar 26 at 12:09













                    @DoubleAA kosby bas tzur for example (to avoid baal peor issues)

                    – Orangesandlemons
                    Mar 26 at 13:07





                    @DoubleAA kosby bas tzur for example (to avoid baal peor issues)

                    – Orangesandlemons
                    Mar 26 at 13:07




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                    @Orangesandlemons judaism.stackexchange.com/q/43388

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                    Mar 26 at 13:55





                    @Orangesandlemons judaism.stackexchange.com/q/43388

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                    Mar 26 at 13:55




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                    @Y e z nice find, and according to those mefarshim it looks like it wouldn't be forbidden as such. However, it's perhaps worth mentioning that I'm fairly confident that when G-d tells someone 'don't do x' and someone actively encourages someone to do x, they are effectively setting themselves against Hashem and is forbidden misvarah even if not a direct 'mitzvah'.

                    – Orangesandlemons
                    Mar 26 at 14:24





                    @Y e z nice find, and according to those mefarshim it looks like it wouldn't be forbidden as such. However, it's perhaps worth mentioning that I'm fairly confident that when G-d tells someone 'don't do x' and someone actively encourages someone to do x, they are effectively setting themselves against Hashem and is forbidden misvarah even if not a direct 'mitzvah'.

                    – Orangesandlemons
                    Mar 26 at 14:24