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I think found a mistake, and a possible correction, in the postgres documentation regarding explain plans.



From: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/using-explain.html



Index Scan using tenk2_unique2 on tenk2 t2 (cost=0.29..7.91 rows=1 width=244) (actual time=0.021..0.022 rows=1 loops=10)


"In the above example, we spent a total of 0.220 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2."



The docs would seem to indicate Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = total time spent on an operation.



However, from a JSON plan I produced:



 "Plans": [
{
"Node Type": "Hash Join",
"Parent Relationship": "Outer",
"Parallel Aware": false,
"Join Type": "Inner",
"Startup Cost": 66575.34,
"Total Cost": 76861.82,
"Plan Rows": 407,
"Plan Width": 290,
"Actual Startup Time": 49962.789,
"Actual Total Time": 51206.643,
"Actual Rows": 127117,
"Actual Loops": 3,
"Output": [ ... ],
...
"Execution Time": 52677.398


(The complete plan is here.)



Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = 51 sec * 3 = 2 min 33 sec clearly exceeds the Execution Time of 52.7 seconds.



Am I understanding the documentation correctly?



If so, shouldn't it say, "we spent a total of 0.01 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2"?










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  • The documentation is correct in this case. Your EXPLAIN output is incomplete, so it's hard to make a judgement if it contradicts the documentation or not.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 7:15











  • How can the documentation be correct if Actual Total Time * Actual Loops exceeds Execution Time?

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 11:48











  • I'm not sure. That's why I'd like to see the whole plan. If it is not too much to ask, in text format.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 12:03











  • Here it is: tatiyants.com/pev/#/plans/plan_1553519907593. The operation in my post is the hash join using s._fixation_key = f._fixation_key.

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 13:26











  • That link leads to an empty page for me. Can you add it to the question?

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 13:30

















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I think found a mistake, and a possible correction, in the postgres documentation regarding explain plans.



From: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/using-explain.html



Index Scan using tenk2_unique2 on tenk2 t2 (cost=0.29..7.91 rows=1 width=244) (actual time=0.021..0.022 rows=1 loops=10)


"In the above example, we spent a total of 0.220 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2."



The docs would seem to indicate Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = total time spent on an operation.



However, from a JSON plan I produced:



 "Plans": [
{
"Node Type": "Hash Join",
"Parent Relationship": "Outer",
"Parallel Aware": false,
"Join Type": "Inner",
"Startup Cost": 66575.34,
"Total Cost": 76861.82,
"Plan Rows": 407,
"Plan Width": 290,
"Actual Startup Time": 49962.789,
"Actual Total Time": 51206.643,
"Actual Rows": 127117,
"Actual Loops": 3,
"Output": [ ... ],
...
"Execution Time": 52677.398


(The complete plan is here.)



Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = 51 sec * 3 = 2 min 33 sec clearly exceeds the Execution Time of 52.7 seconds.



Am I understanding the documentation correctly?



If so, shouldn't it say, "we spent a total of 0.01 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2"?










share|improve this question
























  • The documentation is correct in this case. Your EXPLAIN output is incomplete, so it's hard to make a judgement if it contradicts the documentation or not.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 7:15











  • How can the documentation be correct if Actual Total Time * Actual Loops exceeds Execution Time?

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 11:48











  • I'm not sure. That's why I'd like to see the whole plan. If it is not too much to ask, in text format.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 12:03











  • Here it is: tatiyants.com/pev/#/plans/plan_1553519907593. The operation in my post is the hash join using s._fixation_key = f._fixation_key.

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 13:26











  • That link leads to an empty page for me. Can you add it to the question?

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 13:30













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I think found a mistake, and a possible correction, in the postgres documentation regarding explain plans.



From: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/using-explain.html



Index Scan using tenk2_unique2 on tenk2 t2 (cost=0.29..7.91 rows=1 width=244) (actual time=0.021..0.022 rows=1 loops=10)


"In the above example, we spent a total of 0.220 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2."



The docs would seem to indicate Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = total time spent on an operation.



However, from a JSON plan I produced:



 "Plans": [
{
"Node Type": "Hash Join",
"Parent Relationship": "Outer",
"Parallel Aware": false,
"Join Type": "Inner",
"Startup Cost": 66575.34,
"Total Cost": 76861.82,
"Plan Rows": 407,
"Plan Width": 290,
"Actual Startup Time": 49962.789,
"Actual Total Time": 51206.643,
"Actual Rows": 127117,
"Actual Loops": 3,
"Output": [ ... ],
...
"Execution Time": 52677.398


(The complete plan is here.)



Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = 51 sec * 3 = 2 min 33 sec clearly exceeds the Execution Time of 52.7 seconds.



Am I understanding the documentation correctly?



If so, shouldn't it say, "we spent a total of 0.01 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2"?










share|improve this question
















I think found a mistake, and a possible correction, in the postgres documentation regarding explain plans.



From: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/using-explain.html



Index Scan using tenk2_unique2 on tenk2 t2 (cost=0.29..7.91 rows=1 width=244) (actual time=0.021..0.022 rows=1 loops=10)


"In the above example, we spent a total of 0.220 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2."



The docs would seem to indicate Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = total time spent on an operation.



However, from a JSON plan I produced:



 "Plans": [
{
"Node Type": "Hash Join",
"Parent Relationship": "Outer",
"Parallel Aware": false,
"Join Type": "Inner",
"Startup Cost": 66575.34,
"Total Cost": 76861.82,
"Plan Rows": 407,
"Plan Width": 290,
"Actual Startup Time": 49962.789,
"Actual Total Time": 51206.643,
"Actual Rows": 127117,
"Actual Loops": 3,
"Output": [ ... ],
...
"Execution Time": 52677.398


(The complete plan is here.)



Actual Total Time * Actual Loops = 51 sec * 3 = 2 min 33 sec clearly exceeds the Execution Time of 52.7 seconds.



Am I understanding the documentation correctly?



If so, shouldn't it say, "we spent a total of 0.01 milliseconds executing the index scans on tenk2"?







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  • The documentation is correct in this case. Your EXPLAIN output is incomplete, so it's hard to make a judgement if it contradicts the documentation or not.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 7:15











  • How can the documentation be correct if Actual Total Time * Actual Loops exceeds Execution Time?

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 11:48











  • I'm not sure. That's why I'd like to see the whole plan. If it is not too much to ask, in text format.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 12:03











  • Here it is: tatiyants.com/pev/#/plans/plan_1553519907593. The operation in my post is the hash join using s._fixation_key = f._fixation_key.

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 13:26











  • That link leads to an empty page for me. Can you add it to the question?

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 13:30

















  • The documentation is correct in this case. Your EXPLAIN output is incomplete, so it's hard to make a judgement if it contradicts the documentation or not.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 7:15











  • How can the documentation be correct if Actual Total Time * Actual Loops exceeds Execution Time?

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 11:48











  • I'm not sure. That's why I'd like to see the whole plan. If it is not too much to ask, in text format.

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 12:03











  • Here it is: tatiyants.com/pev/#/plans/plan_1553519907593. The operation in my post is the hash join using s._fixation_key = f._fixation_key.

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 25 at 13:26











  • That link leads to an empty page for me. Can you add it to the question?

    – Laurenz Albe
    Mar 25 at 13:30
















The documentation is correct in this case. Your EXPLAIN output is incomplete, so it's hard to make a judgement if it contradicts the documentation or not.

– Laurenz Albe
Mar 25 at 7:15





The documentation is correct in this case. Your EXPLAIN output is incomplete, so it's hard to make a judgement if it contradicts the documentation or not.

– Laurenz Albe
Mar 25 at 7:15













How can the documentation be correct if Actual Total Time * Actual Loops exceeds Execution Time?

– wmeitzen
Mar 25 at 11:48





How can the documentation be correct if Actual Total Time * Actual Loops exceeds Execution Time?

– wmeitzen
Mar 25 at 11:48













I'm not sure. That's why I'd like to see the whole plan. If it is not too much to ask, in text format.

– Laurenz Albe
Mar 25 at 12:03





I'm not sure. That's why I'd like to see the whole plan. If it is not too much to ask, in text format.

– Laurenz Albe
Mar 25 at 12:03













Here it is: tatiyants.com/pev/#/plans/plan_1553519907593. The operation in my post is the hash join using s._fixation_key = f._fixation_key.

– wmeitzen
Mar 25 at 13:26





Here it is: tatiyants.com/pev/#/plans/plan_1553519907593. The operation in my post is the hash join using s._fixation_key = f._fixation_key.

– wmeitzen
Mar 25 at 13:26













That link leads to an empty page for me. Can you add it to the question?

– Laurenz Albe
Mar 25 at 13:30





That link leads to an empty page for me. Can you add it to the question?

– Laurenz Albe
Mar 25 at 13:30












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Your Hash Join is underneath a Gather node:



Gather (cost=67,575.34..77,959.52 rows=977 width=290) (actual time=51,264.085..52,595.474 rows=381,352 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386
-> Hash Join (cost=66,575.34..76,861.82 rows=407 width=290) (actual time=49,962.789..51,206.643 rows=127,117 loops=3)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386


That means that The query started two background workers which ran in parallel with the main backend to complete the hash join (see the "Workers Launched": 2 in the execution plan).



Now it is evident that if three processes work on a task, the total execution time will not be the sum of the individual execution times.



In other words, the rule about multiplication of execution time with the number of loops holds for nested loop join, (which is single threaded), but not for parallel execution of a query.






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Your Hash Join is underneath a Gather node:



Gather (cost=67,575.34..77,959.52 rows=977 width=290) (actual time=51,264.085..52,595.474 rows=381,352 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386
-> Hash Join (cost=66,575.34..76,861.82 rows=407 width=290) (actual time=49,962.789..51,206.643 rows=127,117 loops=3)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386


That means that The query started two background workers which ran in parallel with the main backend to complete the hash join (see the "Workers Launched": 2 in the execution plan).



Now it is evident that if three processes work on a task, the total execution time will not be the sum of the individual execution times.



In other words, the rule about multiplication of execution time with the number of loops holds for nested loop join, (which is single threaded), but not for parallel execution of a query.






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  • Your answer has led me to read the explain and parallel query docs much more closely.

    – wmeitzen
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Your Hash Join is underneath a Gather node:



Gather (cost=67,575.34..77,959.52 rows=977 width=290) (actual time=51,264.085..52,595.474 rows=381,352 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386
-> Hash Join (cost=66,575.34..76,861.82 rows=407 width=290) (actual time=49,962.789..51,206.643 rows=127,117 loops=3)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386


That means that The query started two background workers which ran in parallel with the main backend to complete the hash join (see the "Workers Launched": 2 in the execution plan).



Now it is evident that if three processes work on a task, the total execution time will not be the sum of the individual execution times.



In other words, the rule about multiplication of execution time with the number of loops holds for nested loop join, (which is single threaded), but not for parallel execution of a query.






share|improve this answer























  • Your answer has led me to read the explain and parallel query docs much more closely.

    – wmeitzen
    Mar 26 at 16:16













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Your Hash Join is underneath a Gather node:



Gather (cost=67,575.34..77,959.52 rows=977 width=290) (actual time=51,264.085..52,595.474 rows=381,352 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386
-> Hash Join (cost=66,575.34..76,861.82 rows=407 width=290) (actual time=49,962.789..51,206.643 rows=127,117 loops=3)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386


That means that The query started two background workers which ran in parallel with the main backend to complete the hash join (see the "Workers Launched": 2 in the execution plan).



Now it is evident that if three processes work on a task, the total execution time will not be the sum of the individual execution times.



In other words, the rule about multiplication of execution time with the number of loops holds for nested loop join, (which is single threaded), but not for parallel execution of a query.






share|improve this answer













Your Hash Join is underneath a Gather node:



Gather (cost=67,575.34..77,959.52 rows=977 width=290) (actual time=51,264.085..52,595.474 rows=381,352 loops=1)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386
-> Hash Join (cost=66,575.34..76,861.82 rows=407 width=290) (actual time=49,962.789..51,206.643 rows=127,117 loops=3)
Buffers: shared hit=611279 read=99386


That means that The query started two background workers which ran in parallel with the main backend to complete the hash join (see the "Workers Launched": 2 in the execution plan).



Now it is evident that if three processes work on a task, the total execution time will not be the sum of the individual execution times.



In other words, the rule about multiplication of execution time with the number of loops holds for nested loop join, (which is single threaded), but not for parallel execution of a query.







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