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Our application uses jodatime to handle times, and (for API formatting reasons) we store times in a model class which looks a bit like this:



class Event 
private LocalDateTime localTime;
private DateTimeZone timeZone;

public DateTime getTime()
return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


public void setTime(DateTime value)
this.localTime = value.toLocalDateTime();
this.timeZone = value.getZone();

// ...more boilerplate



Further downstream I noticed we were getting a different time out than we were setting. I figured we were converting the fields back to a DateTime wrong, since the local fields seem to have the right values.



On a whim I tried changing the getter and now it works, but I have no idea why:



 public DateTime getTime() 
return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);



The joda documentation is a bit tight-lipped about how it carries out the toDateTime() call; it says it "uses" a certain timezone somehow but that's it.



Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between



return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


and



return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);


?



Thanks in advance!



Edit: I've figured it out - I was using "Etc/GMT" as my time zone and that didn't take into account daylight savings. Have marked Marco's answer as correct










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    jodatime is open source! Take a look at the sources of LocalDateTime:getDateTime() and DateTime:withZone() to exactly see what is going on.

    – lupz
    Mar 26 at 12:42












  • My observation is the opposite as yours. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone); I do get the same DateTime back. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone); I get a different one (unless the zone of the provided DateTime is my default time zone). What I am observing also agrees with my understanding of the intended behaviour.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 11:06











  • @OleV.V. - that's fascinating - can I ask what time you're using? I'm testing with localTime=2014-04-24T15:55:00.000, timeZone=Etc/GMT i.e. during daylight savings time.

    – Binney
    Mar 27 at 17:10











  • I used the current time in a foreign time zone: new DateTime(DateTimeZone.forID("Asia/Shanghai")) (my own time zone is Europe/Copenhagen). I suspect that there may be something unplanned going on on your side, but I cannot guess what.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:16











  • (1) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:28:26.755+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);: the same. (2) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:29:40.414+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);: 2019-03-28T08:29:40.414+08:00. Note that the hours are 08 instead of 01.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:30

















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Our application uses jodatime to handle times, and (for API formatting reasons) we store times in a model class which looks a bit like this:



class Event 
private LocalDateTime localTime;
private DateTimeZone timeZone;

public DateTime getTime()
return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


public void setTime(DateTime value)
this.localTime = value.toLocalDateTime();
this.timeZone = value.getZone();

// ...more boilerplate



Further downstream I noticed we were getting a different time out than we were setting. I figured we were converting the fields back to a DateTime wrong, since the local fields seem to have the right values.



On a whim I tried changing the getter and now it works, but I have no idea why:



 public DateTime getTime() 
return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);



The joda documentation is a bit tight-lipped about how it carries out the toDateTime() call; it says it "uses" a certain timezone somehow but that's it.



Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between



return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


and



return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);


?



Thanks in advance!



Edit: I've figured it out - I was using "Etc/GMT" as my time zone and that didn't take into account daylight savings. Have marked Marco's answer as correct










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    jodatime is open source! Take a look at the sources of LocalDateTime:getDateTime() and DateTime:withZone() to exactly see what is going on.

    – lupz
    Mar 26 at 12:42












  • My observation is the opposite as yours. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone); I do get the same DateTime back. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone); I get a different one (unless the zone of the provided DateTime is my default time zone). What I am observing also agrees with my understanding of the intended behaviour.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 11:06











  • @OleV.V. - that's fascinating - can I ask what time you're using? I'm testing with localTime=2014-04-24T15:55:00.000, timeZone=Etc/GMT i.e. during daylight savings time.

    – Binney
    Mar 27 at 17:10











  • I used the current time in a foreign time zone: new DateTime(DateTimeZone.forID("Asia/Shanghai")) (my own time zone is Europe/Copenhagen). I suspect that there may be something unplanned going on on your side, but I cannot guess what.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:16











  • (1) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:28:26.755+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);: the same. (2) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:29:40.414+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);: 2019-03-28T08:29:40.414+08:00. Note that the hours are 08 instead of 01.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:30













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Our application uses jodatime to handle times, and (for API formatting reasons) we store times in a model class which looks a bit like this:



class Event 
private LocalDateTime localTime;
private DateTimeZone timeZone;

public DateTime getTime()
return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


public void setTime(DateTime value)
this.localTime = value.toLocalDateTime();
this.timeZone = value.getZone();

// ...more boilerplate



Further downstream I noticed we were getting a different time out than we were setting. I figured we were converting the fields back to a DateTime wrong, since the local fields seem to have the right values.



On a whim I tried changing the getter and now it works, but I have no idea why:



 public DateTime getTime() 
return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);



The joda documentation is a bit tight-lipped about how it carries out the toDateTime() call; it says it "uses" a certain timezone somehow but that's it.



Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between



return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


and



return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);


?



Thanks in advance!



Edit: I've figured it out - I was using "Etc/GMT" as my time zone and that didn't take into account daylight savings. Have marked Marco's answer as correct










share|improve this question
















Our application uses jodatime to handle times, and (for API formatting reasons) we store times in a model class which looks a bit like this:



class Event 
private LocalDateTime localTime;
private DateTimeZone timeZone;

public DateTime getTime()
return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


public void setTime(DateTime value)
this.localTime = value.toLocalDateTime();
this.timeZone = value.getZone();

// ...more boilerplate



Further downstream I noticed we were getting a different time out than we were setting. I figured we were converting the fields back to a DateTime wrong, since the local fields seem to have the right values.



On a whim I tried changing the getter and now it works, but I have no idea why:



 public DateTime getTime() 
return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);



The joda documentation is a bit tight-lipped about how it carries out the toDateTime() call; it says it "uses" a certain timezone somehow but that's it.



Can anyone explain to me what the difference is between



return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);


and



return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);


?



Thanks in advance!



Edit: I've figured it out - I was using "Etc/GMT" as my time zone and that didn't take into account daylight savings. Have marked Marco's answer as correct







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    jodatime is open source! Take a look at the sources of LocalDateTime:getDateTime() and DateTime:withZone() to exactly see what is going on.

    – lupz
    Mar 26 at 12:42












  • My observation is the opposite as yours. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone); I do get the same DateTime back. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone); I get a different one (unless the zone of the provided DateTime is my default time zone). What I am observing also agrees with my understanding of the intended behaviour.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 11:06











  • @OleV.V. - that's fascinating - can I ask what time you're using? I'm testing with localTime=2014-04-24T15:55:00.000, timeZone=Etc/GMT i.e. during daylight savings time.

    – Binney
    Mar 27 at 17:10











  • I used the current time in a foreign time zone: new DateTime(DateTimeZone.forID("Asia/Shanghai")) (my own time zone is Europe/Copenhagen). I suspect that there may be something unplanned going on on your side, but I cannot guess what.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:16











  • (1) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:28:26.755+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);: the same. (2) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:29:40.414+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);: 2019-03-28T08:29:40.414+08:00. Note that the hours are 08 instead of 01.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:30












  • 2





    jodatime is open source! Take a look at the sources of LocalDateTime:getDateTime() and DateTime:withZone() to exactly see what is going on.

    – lupz
    Mar 26 at 12:42












  • My observation is the opposite as yours. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone); I do get the same DateTime back. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone); I get a different one (unless the zone of the provided DateTime is my default time zone). What I am observing also agrees with my understanding of the intended behaviour.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 11:06











  • @OleV.V. - that's fascinating - can I ask what time you're using? I'm testing with localTime=2014-04-24T15:55:00.000, timeZone=Etc/GMT i.e. during daylight savings time.

    – Binney
    Mar 27 at 17:10











  • I used the current time in a foreign time zone: new DateTime(DateTimeZone.forID("Asia/Shanghai")) (my own time zone is Europe/Copenhagen). I suspect that there may be something unplanned going on on your side, but I cannot guess what.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:16











  • (1) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:28:26.755+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);: the same. (2) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:29:40.414+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);: 2019-03-28T08:29:40.414+08:00. Note that the hours are 08 instead of 01.

    – Ole V.V.
    Mar 27 at 17:30







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2





jodatime is open source! Take a look at the sources of LocalDateTime:getDateTime() and DateTime:withZone() to exactly see what is going on.

– lupz
Mar 26 at 12:42






jodatime is open source! Take a look at the sources of LocalDateTime:getDateTime() and DateTime:withZone() to exactly see what is going on.

– lupz
Mar 26 at 12:42














My observation is the opposite as yours. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone); I do get the same DateTime back. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone); I get a different one (unless the zone of the provided DateTime is my default time zone). What I am observing also agrees with my understanding of the intended behaviour.

– Ole V.V.
Mar 27 at 11:06





My observation is the opposite as yours. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone); I do get the same DateTime back. WIth return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone); I get a different one (unless the zone of the provided DateTime is my default time zone). What I am observing also agrees with my understanding of the intended behaviour.

– Ole V.V.
Mar 27 at 11:06













@OleV.V. - that's fascinating - can I ask what time you're using? I'm testing with localTime=2014-04-24T15:55:00.000, timeZone=Etc/GMT i.e. during daylight savings time.

– Binney
Mar 27 at 17:10





@OleV.V. - that's fascinating - can I ask what time you're using? I'm testing with localTime=2014-04-24T15:55:00.000, timeZone=Etc/GMT i.e. during daylight savings time.

– Binney
Mar 27 at 17:10













I used the current time in a foreign time zone: new DateTime(DateTimeZone.forID("Asia/Shanghai")) (my own time zone is Europe/Copenhagen). I suspect that there may be something unplanned going on on your side, but I cannot guess what.

– Ole V.V.
Mar 27 at 17:16





I used the current time in a foreign time zone: new DateTime(DateTimeZone.forID("Asia/Shanghai")) (my own time zone is Europe/Copenhagen). I suspect that there may be something unplanned going on on your side, but I cannot guess what.

– Ole V.V.
Mar 27 at 17:16













(1) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:28:26.755+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);: the same. (2) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:29:40.414+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);: 2019-03-28T08:29:40.414+08:00. Note that the hours are 08 instead of 01.

– Ole V.V.
Mar 27 at 17:30





(1) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:28:26.755+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime(timeZone);: the same. (2) DateTime I set: 2019-03-28T01:29:40.414+08:00. DateTime I got from return localStopTime.toDateTime().withZone(timeZone);: 2019-03-28T08:29:40.414+08:00. Note that the hours are 08 instead of 01.

– Ole V.V.
Mar 27 at 17:30












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The difference between those two is the next one, you use withZone() to: (as JavaDocs says)




Returns a copy of this datetime with a different time zone, preserving the millisecond instant.




Also, the JavaDocs provides a good example:




This method is useful for finding the local time in another timezone.
For example, if this instant holds 12:30 in Europe/London, the result
from this method with Europe/Paris would be 13:30.




And you use the toDateTime(timeZone) to return a DateTime object but applying the specified timeZone to it.



So, you can use toDateTime(timeZone).withZone(secondTimeZone) and you will get a copy of the DateTime generated by the first statement (toDateTime(timeZone)) but, with a different time zone, perseving the milisecond instant. And if you use toDateTime() with no parameters, will only retrieve a DateTime object.






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    The difference between those two is the next one, you use withZone() to: (as JavaDocs says)




    Returns a copy of this datetime with a different time zone, preserving the millisecond instant.




    Also, the JavaDocs provides a good example:




    This method is useful for finding the local time in another timezone.
    For example, if this instant holds 12:30 in Europe/London, the result
    from this method with Europe/Paris would be 13:30.




    And you use the toDateTime(timeZone) to return a DateTime object but applying the specified timeZone to it.



    So, you can use toDateTime(timeZone).withZone(secondTimeZone) and you will get a copy of the DateTime generated by the first statement (toDateTime(timeZone)) but, with a different time zone, perseving the milisecond instant. And if you use toDateTime() with no parameters, will only retrieve a DateTime object.






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      The difference between those two is the next one, you use withZone() to: (as JavaDocs says)




      Returns a copy of this datetime with a different time zone, preserving the millisecond instant.




      Also, the JavaDocs provides a good example:




      This method is useful for finding the local time in another timezone.
      For example, if this instant holds 12:30 in Europe/London, the result
      from this method with Europe/Paris would be 13:30.




      And you use the toDateTime(timeZone) to return a DateTime object but applying the specified timeZone to it.



      So, you can use toDateTime(timeZone).withZone(secondTimeZone) and you will get a copy of the DateTime generated by the first statement (toDateTime(timeZone)) but, with a different time zone, perseving the milisecond instant. And if you use toDateTime() with no parameters, will only retrieve a DateTime object.






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        The difference between those two is the next one, you use withZone() to: (as JavaDocs says)




        Returns a copy of this datetime with a different time zone, preserving the millisecond instant.




        Also, the JavaDocs provides a good example:




        This method is useful for finding the local time in another timezone.
        For example, if this instant holds 12:30 in Europe/London, the result
        from this method with Europe/Paris would be 13:30.




        And you use the toDateTime(timeZone) to return a DateTime object but applying the specified timeZone to it.



        So, you can use toDateTime(timeZone).withZone(secondTimeZone) and you will get a copy of the DateTime generated by the first statement (toDateTime(timeZone)) but, with a different time zone, perseving the milisecond instant. And if you use toDateTime() with no parameters, will only retrieve a DateTime object.






        share|improve this answer













        The difference between those two is the next one, you use withZone() to: (as JavaDocs says)




        Returns a copy of this datetime with a different time zone, preserving the millisecond instant.




        Also, the JavaDocs provides a good example:




        This method is useful for finding the local time in another timezone.
        For example, if this instant holds 12:30 in Europe/London, the result
        from this method with Europe/Paris would be 13:30.




        And you use the toDateTime(timeZone) to return a DateTime object but applying the specified timeZone to it.



        So, you can use toDateTime(timeZone).withZone(secondTimeZone) and you will get a copy of the DateTime generated by the first statement (toDateTime(timeZone)) but, with a different time zone, perseving the milisecond instant. And if you use toDateTime() with no parameters, will only retrieve a DateTime object.







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