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My question today stems from me having difficulty assigning a roman numeral to a chord which either has a suspension (please see below)

Or when there is melodic motion in the bass (please see below)

In the first case (both examples in C major by the way), do we simply call this a vi chord and call it a day? Or, because the D in the soprano line is sounded, is this a viadd4 chord? Similarly, in the example with the C-D motion in the bass, is this just a I chord? Or is this a one chord that becomes something else--something that I wouldn't even know how to name?

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  Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.
  
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  What do you mean:*call it a day?*
  
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  @AlbrechtHügli he is asking whether we should simply call it a vi chord and not to worry about it anymore.
  
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  So a day is actually derived of day = Tag (German)
  
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My question today stems from me having difficulty assigning a roman numeral to a chord which either has a suspension (please see below)

Or when there is melodic motion in the bass (please see below)

In the first case (both examples in C major by the way), do we simply call this a vi chord and call it a day? Or, because the D in the soprano line is sounded, is this a viadd4 chord? Similarly, in the example with the C-D motion in the bass, is this just a I chord? Or is this a one chord that becomes something else--something that I wouldn't even know how to name?

theory harmony analysis roman-numerals

share|improve this question

edited Mar 28 at 1:14

user48353

asked Mar 28 at 1:07

286642286642

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• 
  
  
  

  
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  Note that without a preceding measure in view, we can only say that the D in the soprano is an appoggiatura, not a suspension.
  
  – user48353
  Mar 28 at 1:17
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  What do you mean:*call it a day?*
  
  – Albrecht Hügli
  Mar 28 at 6:44
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @AlbrechtHügli he is asking whether we should simply call it a vi chord and not to worry about it anymore.
  
  – Shevliaskovic
  Mar 28 at 7:49
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  So a day is actually derived of day = Tag (German)
  
  – Albrecht Hügli
  Mar 28 at 7:59
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

My question today stems from me having difficulty assigning a roman numeral to a chord which either has a suspension (please see below)

Or when there is melodic motion in the bass (please see below)

In the first case (both examples in C major by the way), do we simply call this a vi chord and call it a day? Or, because the D in the soprano line is sounded, is this a viadd4 chord? Similarly, in the example with the C-D motion in the bass, is this just a I chord? Or is this a one chord that becomes something else--something that I wouldn't even know how to name?

theory harmony analysis roman-numerals

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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).

• D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi ^4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).




• It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.




• It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.

On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.

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  Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.
  
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  Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)
  
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  @replete you are correct; I updated my answer
  
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  Good answer. I didn’t know you call them passing tones also on strong beat. In German it would be Vorhalt (equal to approach or suspension)
  
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  Mar 28 at 6:42
  
  

  
  
  
  

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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).

• D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi ^4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).




• It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.




• It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.

On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.

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  Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.
  
  – user48353
  Mar 28 at 1:16
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)
  
  – 286642
  Mar 28 at 1:17
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @replete you are correct; I updated my answer
  
  – Shevliaskovic
  Mar 28 at 1:26
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Good answer. I didn’t know you call them passing tones also on strong beat. In German it would be Vorhalt (equal to approach or suspension)
  
  – Albrecht Hügli
  Mar 28 at 6:42
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

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Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).

• D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi ^4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).




• It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.




• It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.

On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.

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edited Mar 28 at 1:34

answered Mar 28 at 1:13

ShevliaskovicShevliaskovic

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  Perhaps worth adding that the 4-3 might be given in superscript aligned with the notes.
  
  – user48353
  Mar 28 at 1:16
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thank you for the concise answer! And the next note does happen to be an E :)
  
  – 286642
  Mar 28 at 1:17
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @replete you are correct; I updated my answer
  
  – Shevliaskovic
  Mar 28 at 1:26
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Good answer. I didn’t know you call them passing tones also on strong beat. In German it would be Vorhalt (equal to approach or suspension)
  
  – Albrecht Hügli
  Mar 28 at 6:42
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Actually, without seeing the preceding measure, there are quite a couple of things that might be going on in your first example (as @replete noted in the comments).

• D is a non-chord tone and it could be a suspension, if the note D was played on the same voice on the previous measure and help for this one; you could call the chord a 'vi ^4-3', because it's the 4th of the root that is the suspension and is resolved to the chord note, the third (in this case C).




• It could be a passing tone on an accented beat, if the previous tone on the preceding measure was an E.




• It could be an appoggiatura, which is a non-chord neighbor tone that is resolved stepwise.

On your second example, the D note is simply a passing tone, which isn't notated in some way. It's not on a strong beat of the measure, so unless something else is happening on the other voices as well, there is no need to change something in your analysis. This kind of passing tone is usually used when the voice is moving stepwise, so in your example, the next note will most likely be E.

share|improve this answer

edited Mar 28 at 1:34

answered Mar 28 at 1:13

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